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Aerangis fuscata

Discussion in 'Orchid Species' started by gg68, Mar 26, 2011.

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  1. Mar 26, 2011 #1
    gg68

    gg68 Angraecoid addict

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    aimg607.imageshack.us_img607_9692_aerangisfuscata.jpg aimg138.imageshack.us_img138_9953_aerangisfuscata2.jpg
     
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    Kitty

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    love it!
     
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    JonP

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    Really sweet!
     
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    Tom-DE

    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I really like that!
     
  5. Mar 26, 2011 #5
    Uluwehi

    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    Magnificent! :eek: :clap:
     
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    Very nice!!
     
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    Gorgeous A. fascata!
    Excellent photography!!
    Jim
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    Karen

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    Magnifique!
     
  9. Mar 26, 2011 #9
    Reyna

    Reyna Orchid Obsessed Supporting Member

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    Oh, I quite literally just sighed aloud! My husband in the next room asked what that was about. (Of course, when I showed him the photo, he said "oh, orchids." :) )

    Wow! That is beautiful! Incredible!

    So, Giles, there is some confusion even among the "experts" as to the difference between fuscata and umbonata. Hillerman, Stewart, Hermans -- they all either say or suggest that it is the same species. I have a plant of each imported from Malala and the plants are quite different. With all your angraecoid expertise, I'd love to hear your method for distinguishing them. Quite frankly, I have wondered which is which--I know what Malala says they were, but have wondered if that is accurate.

    Thanks
     
  10. Mar 27, 2011 #10
    gg68

    gg68 Angraecoid addict

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    In my opinion A.fuscata and A.umbonata are the same species.
    I have a lot of affection for Michelle (Malala), but since she tells me that she identify her orchids with books and since I have seen, when I was in Madagascar, that some identifications were wrong, I am a little more suspicious with the names than she gives to her orchids!!

    The name A.fuscata was used in the past to name A.stylosa...but today there is A.fuscata ad A.stylosa, two species which are completly different.
     
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    T. migratoris

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    I was going to ask the same questions Giles. Would you mind posting a photo or two of the leaves on your plant? I'd like to compare them with my plant labeled umbonata.
     
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    gg68

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    I show you here the leafs of the other one which begins spikes...it has more leaves than the other one!!

    Front side:
    aimg692.imageshack.us_img692_707_img1786ql.jpg

    Back side:
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    The leaves are dark green and the edges are brown-red!!
     
  13. Mar 27, 2011 #13
    xmpraedicta

    xmpraedicta Prairie angraecoid nut Supporting Member

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    It is absolutely gorgeous and great photography
     
  14. Mar 27, 2011 #14
    Marni

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    Gilles, are you growing that quite shady?
     
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    T. migratoris

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    Thanks Giles. Looks like we have the same plant. Hope mine flowers like yours ... two spikes currently in the works.
     
  16. Mar 27, 2011 #16
    gg68

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    Yes I do!!
     
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    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    One more question: do you dry and/or chill it in the winter?
     
  18. Mar 27, 2011 #18
    mrbreeze

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    Wow, very nice all the way round. That is a very healthy plant. :clap:

    I'm almost nearly certain that what Malala sells as fuscata is actually one of the variations of ellisii. I guess my question is: is the plant blooming now labeled by Michelle as fuscata? Or as I would expect, umbonata?
    thanks Giles, great thread once again!
     
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    gg68

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    No, I don't dry them in winter, but they can have 13-14°C during the night!!

    Michelle shown me some orchids which she called A.fuscata but in my opinion it was some A.spiculata!!
    aimg6.imageshack.us_img6_1121_malala5.jpg

    H.Perrier named in the past the A.stylosa as A.fuscata...you can still find this name in old books for Aerangis stylosa!!
     
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    Reyna

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    Giles thank you for the information. As always, you are the font of knowledge on angraecoids. :) Not to belabor the point, but here are a couple of my plants from Malala. The first one was labeled umbonata. It clearly has the reddish margin on the leaf and the same leaf shape as the plant you have pictured as aerangis fuscata. I would agree -- that this is the same plant. This one should be fuscata. My questions is in the next post.
    aerangis umbonata.jpg aerangis umbonata 2.jpg
     
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