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Aerangis modesta (was stylosa)

Discussion in 'Orchid Species' started by T. migratoris, Apr 8, 2012.

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  1. T. migratoris

    T. migratoris Active Member

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    I grow this one a bit shadier than some of my other Aerangis species in very warm, very humid conditions. It's in a small pot in fir bark but I have the pot hanging on a wire so it's really treated more like a mount.
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    Very nicely flowered T. Mig!!. My plant of this species produced an extremely long inflorescence, about 24 inches, on which only half of it produced buds. So now I have 14 buds on only the bottom half of the inflorescence. The first 12-13 inches of the inflorescence is bare! Any idea why this happened?
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    That's a lot of spike for that plant!

    Lapanthes, welcome to OI.
     
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    Bravo!!! I see your punctata is just about ready for pics as well. :clap:
     
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    T. migratoris Active Member

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    That little guy's labeled Aer francoisii but Brenda says it's really monantha. Malala 2011. Ever bring this one in?
     
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    Yea, I'm pretty sure I brought in a dead one last year. :p
     
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    Reyna Orchid Obsessed Supporting Member

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    Yes, I have a couple of them from Malala. I'll dig around and see if I can find a picture. :) They are bitty little things, but seem to do better than some of the bigger species on import.
     
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    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    So fantastic! :clap:
     
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    T. migratoris Active Member

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    Couple more photos taken in better light.
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    Its exquisite! Bravo! =)
     
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    exquisit plant - indeed, but i think it´s not stylosa, rather articulata ;)
    these mistagged plants actually appear all over the globe.
     
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    Hmm ... you're right, of course. I never gave it a second thought considering where I purchased the plant. A good lesson in "always key it yourself before posting pics".
     
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    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    I agree with Matthias.

    Here is a picture of the true stylosa
     
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    ALL stylosa offered as fl. plants in Europe are articulata (and sometimes hybrids / articulata x ?). So there is the need to identify which stylosae are true ones and start a propagation among the correclty identified plants of us serious Angraekoid-enthusiasts, spreading seeds and plants especially among the Angraecoid-nuts who got fooled.
    But it gets still worse, seedlings of mystacidii were sold as mooreana to whole-sellers, articulata were sold as being modesta, somalensis were made out of verdickii ... . We expect these plants getting offered as young plants 2-3 years from flowering in about 2013, some appear already now, and it seems hardly one gets doubts. Mistakes can happen but this quote reminds me of intentional fraud. Not to think of the mess when these plants get mislabelled into any pollinia-sharing and propagation.
     
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    Uh-oh. I got my stylosa as a seedling back in '08 and it seems to be up to blooming size now. I might have a stylosa, or I might have a second articulata. Only time will tell.

    The two somalensis seedlings I got last year seem to be correct, at least based on Stewart's leaf description; the mottled venation. My verdickii's leaves look nothing like it. But I have at least a couple years before they bloom (hopefully) and I find out. The proof is in the flowers.

    I'll have to wait on the modesta -- I have the one BS plant and two mounted seedlings of a different clone.

    Thanks for the heads-up.
     
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    CJ - I wrote from the European situation actually. That´s why it is really important to act carefully. I suppose due to the hybrid-tsunamie growers aren´t attentive anymore and rely on what the tag tells. The next is that there are a lot of wrong pictures circling in the internet - happening even in Jay Pfahl´s compendium partly. People often look at the flower only disregarding the habitus of the entire plants. Leaves, roots, ... all of these offer important hints in order to identify a plant correctly. Especially what´s about Aerangis it´s partly easy (easier) as there are species having the dove-alike shape of the flowers and others which are flowering in a typical star-form and the rest is anyhow in-between.
    I am not even convinced it is about articulata shown above => leaves and their upright position don´t suit anyhow, plain stem, would rather fit to modesta. But what is against modesta ... the zig-zag grown spike. I really don´t know but def. no stylosa.
     
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    I have several classic verdickiis but a year or so ago I bought another gentleman's collection ... which included several Aer. verdickii ... and which based on the vegetation clearly aren't. Not sure what they are because they haven't bloomed yet but it underscores the point about labeling. This "stylosa" came from a very reputable grower so clearly even the best are not immune to mistaken identity (however I should have caught it before posting ... duh).

    Oh man, don't get me started about mystacidii vs. mooreana. At this point I'm not certain whether I have a bona-fide mooreana or not. And the references don't help me much to differentiate between them. Anyone have a bullet-proof key that would differentiate these two species?
     
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    For that very reason, Jay Pfahl long, long ago put a disclaimer at his website that he was using the information and photos he had been given; within certain parameters, of course.

    According to Stewart, there are two varieties of verdickii: var. verdickii and var. rusituensis. The varieties reportedly have a very different appearance according to her description and seem to come from different habitats.
     
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    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    I have a key, send me your email via PM and I'll send it to you.
     
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    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    This should clarify things:

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