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Angraecum species #4107

Discussion in 'Orchid Identification Section' started by Marni, Aug 20, 2009.

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  1. Aug 20, 2009 #1
    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    This is from Madagascar. Hopefully it isn't just a mini-didieri.;) If I am remembering correctly, this was fragrant during the day as well as at night.


    ang.4107.ruler.jpg ang.4107.plant.jpg ang.4107.side.jpg ang.4107.close.jpg
     
  2. Aug 20, 2009 #2
    Tom-DE

    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Ang. cucullatum?

    Your plant looks very similar to my Ang. cucullatum.
     
  3. Aug 21, 2009 #3
    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Thanks for the suggestion, Tom. I looked up Ang. cucullatum and I don't think it is. Mine is from Madagascar and cucullatum is not recorded from Madagascar. Also, the drawing I found of cucullatum shows a surprisingly short spur while mine has a fairly long one.

    I did get out the books and found Ang. triquetrum in Hillerman that looks like what I have, it is from Madagascar and Réunion. Steward & Hermans suggest that triquetrum is a synonym of Ang borbonicum and then go on a describe borbonicum as dog and don't mention Madagascar. Orchids of Madagascar doesn't list it.

    No wonder I'm confused.
     
  4. Aug 21, 2009 #4
    Roy

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  5. Aug 21, 2009 #5
    mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Anglican Supporting Member

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    There can be no confusing one thing...it is an Ang of noble bearing. An Ang that proudly represents an entire tribe of unjustly neglected and maligned orchids. An Ang....to be reckoned with! Three cheers for it!!! :clap:
     
  6. Aug 21, 2009 #6
    Jon

    Jon Mmmm... bulbophyllum...

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    Nice one, Marni. Loves me the white flowers.
     
  7. Aug 21, 2009 #7
    Dale

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    I had an Aerangis punctata bloom the other day. Stoopid flower lasted for 12 hours. I maligned it for almost that long.
     
  8. Aug 21, 2009 #8
    mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Anglican Supporting Member

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    You must have breathed on it or had it too near some stinky bulbo. They normally last much longer than that. Long enough to change color. Definitely a week or more. Mayhap some slutty bug violated it.
     
  9. Aug 21, 2009 #9
    Dale

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    Did the same thing last year. I'll throw the sumbitch away if it does it again.
     
  10. Aug 21, 2009 #10
    mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Anglican Supporting Member

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    :eek:
    the very idea....*shudder*
     
  11. Aug 21, 2009 #11
    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Thanks, Roy. I have been looking at that site. I was hoping to find a picture of Ang. triquetrum. I can tell you I'm gonna be pissed off if this is another cf didieri.

    Yes, Mr.B, it is noble indeed.
     
  12. Aug 21, 2009 #12
    Tom-DE

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    Or cf elephantinum:evil:

    Serious though, I would not label it as didieri because of its growth. Are the leaves softer and thinner than didieri's leaves?
     
  13. Aug 21, 2009 #13
    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Tom, I'll check tomorrow.

    Yeah, Dale, threaten the plant, that always works for me.
     
  14. Aug 21, 2009 #14
    mrbreeze

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    It is almost certainly something within the perrierangraecum section.

    I can't tell just how much the lip embraces the column, which might indicate obesum. Cucculatum and didieri would be good guesses. It might be equitans. It also could be rutenbergianum?
     
  15. Aug 21, 2009 #15
    Karen

    Karen Species nut

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    It is A. didieri, IMHO. Very nice one!
     
  16. Aug 21, 2009 #16
    Roy

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    Marni, the Ang triquetrum your looking for is listed in a number of places as Jumellea neglecta.

    Try this link for a pic your looking for, its not great but its the only one I can find at short notice.

    http://www.orchidstudium.com/Estrangeiras/Angraecum triquetrum.html
     
  17. Aug 21, 2009 #17
    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Thank you Roy. Stewart & Hermanns mention that Ang. triquetrum has been transferred to Jumellea. Somehow I didn't get the idea that it was a Jumellea:confused:. I got the name Ang. triquetrum from Hillerman's book with a picture. I can forget about that now.

    I wish someone would put out an update of names for Hillerman's book.

    Tom, I checked the leaves on this and it is NOT cf didieri-elephantinum (what a relief). The are much thinner, flexible, and v-shaped only at the base of the leaf. The leaf matches borbonicum description exactly. I found this http://www.angraecum.org/Species/Angraecum/Angraecum_borbonicum.htm and even though they don't say it is from Madagascar, I am going with borbonicum. Stewart et al say it frequently doesn't open fully and self-pollinates. So maybe I got a good clone.
     
  18. Jul 8, 2010 #18
    Uluwehi

    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    It's wonderful! How is this kiddo doing these days?
     
  19. Jul 8, 2010 #19
    Armando

    Armando Hobbyist gone wild

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    Very nice! Can't wait to see the other 4106 ;)
     
  20. Jul 10, 2010 #20
    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I'll check for it tomorrow. I have a lot of similar things in bloom right now. They all smell and look the same. The only difference is the name on the label.
     
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