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Catt. NoID..

Discussion in 'Orchid Identification Section' started by yuhin, Jun 17, 2018.

  1. Jun 17, 2018 #1
    yuhin

    yuhin New Member

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    I obtained this Cattleya as a gift. And I kept them for years and made almost ten divisions....Though my guess is a common commercial hybrid, I am hoping to get its identification. Thank you. 微信图片_20180617224603.jpg 微信图片_20180617224615.jpg
     
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  2. Jun 18, 2018 #2
    KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Beautiful saturated color.
     
  3. Jun 20, 2018 #3
    orcoholic

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    Check out pictures of L. (C.) sincorana. Verrrrry similar.
     
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  4. Jun 20, 2018 #4
    yuhin

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    Thank you for the info.
     
  5. Jun 21, 2018 #5
    Marni

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    The plant is not like sincorana, so most likely a hybrid.
     
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  6. Jun 22, 2018 #6
    yuhin

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    My guessing is some walkeriana....I know it is a long shot, just posted it for some luck.
     
  7. Jun 24, 2018 #7
    GaryYG

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    I also agree with Marni that this is a hybrid.

    If it is a primary hybrid, could it be something like Cattleya Trudy Marsh [C. sincorana x C. violacea] or Cattleya Wavrinii [C. violacea x C. pumila]?

    The colour pattern with veining on the disc of the lip plus the lip shape reminds me of C. violacea. However from what I can make out in the photos, all the pseudobulbs so far seem to be unifoliate. Did any of the dried old pseudobulbs have two leaves?

    The pseudobulbs of the hybrid seem more cylindrical, rather than ovoid, plus the leaves are long and narrow. This makes me lean more to C. Wavrinii as the most likely candidate.

    I do not see any influence of C. walkeriana.

    Of course, if it is not a primary hybrid, then it is just a commercial hybrid.

    Cheers.

    Gary
     
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  8. Jun 24, 2018 #8
    yuhin

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    Thanks Gary.

    I am not a good photographer. Actually, all pseudobulbs have two leaves. But true, they all cylindrical and elongated leaves, not very walkeriana. C. Sincorana fits the pental shapes but I found the “nose-like” structure like walkeriana, not sure at all:). The disc of lip probably not.

    Like I said, I got this as a gift. I know it is a long shot. Thanks!
     
  9. Jan 4, 2019 #9
    GaryYG

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    The "nose-like" structure you mention is the apex of the column, peering out from underneath the enfolding lip side-lobes.

    Cattleya violacea is the only bifoliate species. All the other likely candidates that we have discussed above: C. walkeriana, C. sincorana, C. pumila are unifoliate plants [pseudobulb only bears a single leaf at the apex].

    You've confirmed that all the pseudobulbs have two leaves, so my suggestion is C. Wavrinii [assuming that this is a primary hybrid]. Both species parents produce thin cylindrical pencil-like pseudobulbs.

    If your plant has C. walkeriana or C. sincorana parentage, I would expect the pseudobulbs to be much more ovoid or shorter and plump.

    How does that sound?
     
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  10. Feb 10, 2019 #10
    yuhin

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    Thank you, Gary. During this Chinese New Year, I found out that this is a very common commercial hybrid with very complicated heritage, but I cannot find its registered name.