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Detested orchids

Discussion in 'Everything Else Orchid' started by Aceetobe, Aug 15, 2010.

  1. Aceetobe

    Aceetobe Member

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    So...reading Dale and Marni's posts about Cochleanthes viridisepala got me thinking about the orchids I just don't like, or think look pretty dumb. I really don't like Rossioglossum grande. I also don't like Anguloas. i'm not a big fan of Maxillarias either - find them pretty boring for the most part (except the obvious ones fractiflexa, etc.) I'm sure some of you love those, so don't be offended. I'm sure you'd find my Catasetums pretty stupid too, considering they're huge and in bloom like 5 days a year.

    How about you guys?
     
  2. KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I have a Dendrochilum bicallosum that I keep inching closer to the compost pile. I don't think the foliage or bloom is interesting. It's just too healthy to throw away.
     
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    Paphiopedilum.
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Well, at least Dale and I agree on that. Though I probably would have specified hybrid paphs.

    Acineta is high on my "not in my greenhouse list".
     
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    Boytjie Out hiking Supporting Member

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    Have to agree with Anguloa. Might as well just grow tulips in the garden - way less trouble.
     
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    Most Oncidiums (hate brown & yellow flowers, ick); most slippers, all complex hybrid Phalaenopsis, Pholidota imbricata (have a near specimen sized plant that blooms regularly, but it is booorrrring. If anybody wants it, lemme know.) And most new world plants, with the exception of Cattleya. But this bias is probably because I can't grow most of 'em...
     
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    I agree with Alexis about the oncidiums. Also, Phals, not because I dislke them they just seem to melt away under my care.
     
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    xmpraedicta Prairie angraecoid nut Supporting Member

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    What an interesting thread - don't want to offend anyone, but it certainly is interesting to see differences in tastes.

    I find most paphiopedalums boring, except for certain ones that look more like phrags, which makes them 'okay.' I'm with Alexis: I find oncidiums unbearably tedious.
     
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    mrbreeze Anglican Supporting Member

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    If not an Ang, must be quite lame.
     
  10. Uluwehi

    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    Taste is a funny thing. I'm not big on Oncidium either. I generally shy away from orchids that have brown spots, also something about the shape of Oncidium pseudobulbs doesn't gel with my tastes. Though this is only my aesthetic side speaking. My biologist side loves all plants within their natural ecosystems.

    I think there is something to be said for the difference in growing orchids under controlled conditions where effort and expense are required and space is limited, this is when pickyness helps or else things will get out of hand. In Hawai'i I don't mind mounting all manner of oncidiums and hybrids catts on trees, because they fend for themselves. Their foliage recedes into the landscape and their flowers are welcome surprises, especially with some distance.

    I hope I haven't offended Oncidium lovers :(
     
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    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    This is a great thread. As for Oncidium I'm sorta neutral however, my wife hates the yellow / brown combinations because she says it looks like rotten bananas. I wonder if they look like rotting fruit to the pollenators?

    I generally dislike Paphs too except for the multi-floral types like lowii.

    Also, it's not a matter of disliking terrestrials but I don't grow them. To me part of the fascination of orchids is the epiphytic nature.
     
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    Boytjie Out hiking Supporting Member

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    Agreed. :D
     
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    Candace Kept Woman Supporting Member

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    I find most oncidiums boring too and I've not developed any love for cymbidiums over the years.
     
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    Terrestrials in general are worse than Angs. but at least 50% of the Pleurothallids are not that great either... Some Dendrobiums are far more boring than Paphs and Oncidiums...........
    I hate those that DIMP, especially those ugly Bulbos(Floozo made me say that!:evil:)

    Now here is another difficult question--what is your favorite genus?
     
  15. Aceetobe

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    Favorite genus is easy - Catasetums of course. They are the most evolutionary advanced orchid, therefore they are the best. They are huge, don't care about water quality, and come in every shape and size. They grow so fast, that this time of year you can literally watch them grow. If you mess up the culture, they drop their leaves every year, so you don't have to feel inferior bringing them to the OS meeting next year, because nobody can see your blemishes.

    Check out one of my friends plants - afarm5.static.flickr.com_4141_4859832122_3e6f7736a0.jpg .

    They only need HEAT during the sumer, which is what most of us can provide, a ton of water, a ton of fertilizer, and who cares about the winter. So - I get double the amount of plants, because the Catasetums go in the closet during the winter, all the other orchids go in the GH. Catasetums go in the GH during the summer, all the others go outside. I don't have to worry too much about cooling the GH during the summer, because they'd rather be at 95 during the day, and 70 at night. There's enough variety in the culture that makes them a challenge....Plus when I go on vacation to tropical beaches in South America, I always get to see my favorite plants. You Pleuro people have to freeze your butts off in the cloud forests to see yours.

    I actually do like a lot of oncidiums, except for fuscatum and its ilk. They are big and showy, easy to grow. They impress non orchid growers. I have a hard time convincing people that Bulbophyllum microrhombos is the be all end all when I show it to them - or people think I'm crazy if I get excited at a Tuberolabium spike (which smells awful BTW). At least in San Diego, oncidiums and encyclias occupy the same place in my heart. They are easy to grow, outside 100% of the year, and always throw out a show. Too bad they aren't too colorful. But whatever.

    Obviously there are some species that no matter what cause everybody with a heart to pause. Cyrtochilum macranthum is one that comes to mind as that even impresses my wife, who really dislikes orchids. Laelia anceps is another.

    I lied in the opening post - actually I was cleaning out my closet last night, and I found a stack of old Orchids magazines. I was going through them, and I found an article about Rossioglossum grande by our good friend Marni (sorry) ;). I saw the picture, and there's like this intrinsic disgusting feeling I get when I see it. If most orchids are European, Rossioglossum grande is definitely the American of the bunch. I feel bad for it, because it doesn't realize how gaudy and ugly it is with its tennis shoes on, track pants and belly hanging out - even if its a bit naive, it still sucks.

    Not as bad as paphs though. ;)
     
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    Now I know what my least favorite genus is.:D but Galeandra is not too bad and I love my Clowesia rosea though.
     
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    I'm just a sucker for the lowland huge plants. Being young, dumb and naive, my favorite plants are Catasetinae, and just for amusements sake, I have a growing collection of Cyrtopodiums - I think I have 15 species now or so. I have a couple Grammangis, and love Vandopsis, Eulophiella, etc.

    Even though I'm all for refined tastes, I go big. Nothing quite compares to a plant that looks like it wants to eat you. Or, a Cycnoches that is 3 feet tall, and has 7 spikes of 40 flowers each. Even if its only perfect for one day, that one day is the best day ever.

    I also like Sobralias for the same reasons - but those are easy growers here.

    You guys in Texas and Florida should really grow more Catasetinae. ;)
     
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    I have C. rosea alba ;)
     
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    For that , I will take back all the nasty things I said about your orchid collection:D Gimme!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Its still tiny, so at least one if not two years before I can divide it. Your name now is at the top of the list. I want *at least* D. schrautii though as my pirates booty.