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Experience with pollination....

Discussion in 'Everything Else Orchid' started by jai, May 14, 2017.

  1. jai

    jai Orchid addict

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    Has anyone had success with cross pollinating different species? Any successful pods?
    I wanted to take a opportunity to cross pollinate my Restrepiella ophiocephala with possibly a Epidendrum melanoporphyreum. But if its a waste of a good flower I will pass.
     
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    Ricardo Slave of demanding bird

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    Interspecies crossings in orchids are exceedingly common within orchid genera in nature and it has been done in captivity since late nineteen century when the first hybrids were made in England. Even crosses between related genera are commonplace in the orchid family. However as the genetic relationship between particular species becomes more and more distant, hybrids become difficult to get. I would expect that an Epidendrum and a Restrepiella would not be compatible due to the fact that they belong to different groups within the orchid family that are not closely related. I have heard claims of Cattleya and Vanda hybrids, usually done by people with only a faint knowledge of orchids genetics, or maybe they were being facetious. I vaguely recall somebody registering a cross between between a Brassia and a Cattleya or Brassavola in the eighties that turned out to be an error. Sometimes due to the quirks of the orchids reproductive system, putting the pollen of an orchid into the stigma of another will trigger development even in the absence of fertilization. This has caused some spots of confusion over the years.
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I do know of some crosses as disparate as Cymbidium and Promenaea, but I would be astonished if the cross you propose would produce a capsule, let alone viable seed. Pollinating is easy and you have nothing to loose if you tried. That is as long as the plant donating the pollen is not virused.
     
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    jai Orchid addict

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    The pollen doner is healthy I was sent pollen from a friends plant sometime ago(fall I believe). I stored it in a coffee filter in a cool dry place so the pollen is still viable but not freshly collected.
    Perhaps I would have better luck crossing it with Scaphoseplum octhodes(which is in bloom right now).
     
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    You are much more likely to get seed with a Scaphosepalum.
     
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    Apart from general curiosity if it would work, why would you want to make weird intergeneric hybrids?
     
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    Hmm good question...I guest just to see the out come of dominant traits or generally see what orchids share among each other or just thinking of the possibilities of creating something weird but beautiful.
     
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    Ricardo Slave of demanding bird

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    In the beginnings of orchid hybridization, when people didn't know how to store pollen, crosses were made between whatever had flowers at the same time. This meant that there were many speculative crosses. Nowadays hybridizers prefer to use plants that already have a full suit of the choicest genetic traits rather than to start with scratch and produce plants that are inferior to things that we already have. However tastes in flowers are always changing, and new avenues in breeding are starting all the time, not all of which reflect the "dinner plate sized and very flat" aesthetics that is the ideal in the minds of many people.
     
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    My main interest is the restrepiella no one has done and crossing with the species to my knowledge. It would be interesting to see what it can provide in genetics\traits. Not sure if I would spread the hybrid around among other growers collections since there is so many variety all ready around but if it becomes a very gorgeous creation I would have no choice but to share it:D
     
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    Update the flower took the pollen but it dropped last night. Perhaps the flowers was to old and not at its peak for pollination or the cross was not meant to be. I will try again in the future blooms and keep everyone posted. First attempt Restrepiella ophiocephala x Scaphoseplum octhodes.