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Help with a very important orchid

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Slidemaster729, Aug 13, 2023.

  1. Slidemaster729

    Slidemaster729 New Member

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    Hello all! I'm brand new here, but figured this might be a good place to receive some guidance with my orchid.

    A little background: my wife's mother passed away unexpectedly last year after a brief illness, and when we went to gather her things in her room, we found an orchid that had been given to her during her stay in the care facility. We took it home, and, in an attempt to preserve something that reminded my wife of her mom, I started taking care of it.

    I don't exactly have a green thumb and it has had an occasional issue (broken leaf, accidentally snapped aerial root, etc., but we got 9 blooms this year starting in May that just fell off a day or two ago, and it just grew a big new leaf. Overall it appears on the surface to be relatively healthy.

    I know it needs to be repotted and to have some of the dead roots trimmed away, and I've purchased all the materials needed and watched countless YouTube videos about what to do, so hopefully that will happen in the next week or so. What I'm really wondering about is the following:

    I know nothing lives forever, and I would really love to propagate this orchid so that my wife can always feel like her mother has a little bit of presence in the home. It is very very important to me that this orchid stays healthy when doing this, however.

    What should I do, and how do I go about this?

    Also, would somebody confirm that what we're caring for a phalenopsis orchid? It was not labeled, and probably purchased at a local grocery store.

    Thank you all for any help you can offer!
     

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    ryan248 Active Member

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    Yup, it's a Phal. Not sure what species or even hybrid. Flowers give it away usually or how the leaves and such look.

    If any root does not turn green after getting it wet, it's dead. It's up to you to trim those away. Repot in the same size pot or just barely bigger if the roots inside are compact and healthy.

    If you go from spag. moss to bark, you can easily underwater. Not sure if you bought new media.

    It looks okay, but not sure of that one leaf at the bottom left looks dehydrated or its just the light.
     
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    Also, for identification purposes, this is one of the flowers that just fell off.
     

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  5. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I would use the Better Gro mix. The other has moss and bark mixed together so part of it is going to degrade faster than the other part. You might want to wash the leaves off. It looks as if there is dust or a build up that would block some of the light the plant needs to photosynthesize. Older leaves dying off is normal as long as you aren't loosing leaves faster than growing new ones.

    You will find watering a bark mix is different from the moss you have. You will want to water thoroughly or soaking the pot in a pail of water so that air no long is coming to the surface. Then let it drain before putting it back where it grows. Then you wait until the pot feels lighter, but not bone dry before you water again.

    Orchids can live for a very long time. I have a division of a plant that was imported into the US in the 1890's. The next time you plant blooms, you can leave the spike in place once the flowers drop. It may produce a keiki (baby) that can be separated from the spike once it has good developed multiple roots.
     
  6. Slidemaster729

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    Thank you for the thoughtful reply! I've seen YouTube videos of people propagating new orchids from cut pieces of flower spikes, or using keiki paste. Do you have any experience with that, or do orchids simply reproduce when they "decide" to?

    It looks like the pot it's currently in is more moss than bark. Is there any issue with repotting into a more bark-based substrate from a moss based one? Do you prefer bark over moss in general?
     
  7. Marni

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    Some Phalaenopsis species do it more freely than others. It will depend on what parentage is in the plant you have. I am assuming it is a hybrid. I would just wait and see. I've played around with keiki paste and didn't have great success. I don't know if stem propagation needs sterile conditions, but I would guess so. In that case, it is probably best to just wait. Or you could find someone with a tissue culture lab who would be willing to do it.

    I mostly grow my potted plants in bark or a bark mix. Some things I will use moss, but it breaks down quickly in most conditions and needs to be repotted. Also, good quality moss is hard to come by and pricey, though well worth the extra money. Mile High brand is excellent these days. Though some really good growers I know use moss almost exclusively. I depends on your conditions and culture.
     
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    Gotcha. The mix that I bought from that company seems to be pretty high quality, so I'm hopeful that it will be useful for potting. I live down in texas, where it is exceptionally dry, with very low humidity. Would that impact the decision on what substrate to use? It isn't kept outside, but it is on a windowsill where it gets some pretty good indirect light. I know that the pot it is currently in is primarily moss, but that might also be because it's inexpensive or easy.

    I truly have no idea what the parentage of this plant is, though I imagine it's nothing fancy. It was likely purchased in a local grocery store, as it came with a little insert saying to water it with two ice cubes, and with very little other instruction.

    Honestly, I'm mostly just afraid of screwing it up. I've heard horror stories of people inadvertently shocking or killing their orchids when they repot them, and I really don't want that to happen.
     
  9. Ray

    Ray Orchid Iconoclast Supporting Member

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    You will never know the parentage, but frankly, that doesn’t sound like an issue for you.

    Phalaenopsis like heat, humidity, and shade. Of the three, it can probably tolerate a lack of humidity better than a deviation in the other two.

    Potting medium choice will not really affect the humidity issue, but you need to be sure the medium stays moderately moist (not soppy) and very airy.
     
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    Definitely no ice! When you water, let it run through the pot (which flushes out fertilizer salts and crud, and pulls air into the root zone), then let it drain well. As long as the mix is open and airy, overwatering won't be a worry, It's all about "humid air" in the root zone, which this approach to watering will give you.
     
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    Hello all! I'm repotting my orchid, and trimming dead roots. Most of the roots actually appear fairly healthy, but I'm unsure what to do with the one pictured here. It is brown and spongey up top, but green and full near the base. Should I cut it or leave it?
     

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    First attempt at repotting. Does this look okay? I went to a larger pot as all the roots were crammed into a little 3 inch one with no aeration.
     

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  13. Roberta

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    Looks good. Just leave that aerial root. When you water the plant, spray that root too, so that it turns green, to keep it nice and firm. It's contributing to the plant - aerial roots are very normal for a Phalaenopsis.
     
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    If a root has a green tip, it is working for the plant and I leave it.
     
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    Great, thank you. There was one other small root that was brown on top that I trimmed away. That shouldn't be a problem for it's health, right? It really had primarily healthy looking, firm roots with only a couple dead ones. Just want to make sure!
     
  16. Roberta

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    It sounds like you have plenty of healthy roots, so trimming one is probably no problem. Personally, I don't trim even marginal-looking roots. When in doubt, I prefer to not cut.
     
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