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Nanovivs/wine chillers?

Discussion in 'Orchid Culture' started by Chris, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. Chris

    Chris New Member

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    Has anyone used the terra cotta vases/wine chillers from Hobby Lobby? How has it worked? As well as the pipes in Sweden? I'd really like to set up a Nano-Viv using one of these that I already have:

    http://www.junglebox.net/category/VIV.html
     
  2. Jon

    Jon Mmmm... bulbophyllum...

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    I put one of the chillers from Hobby Lobby in my basement grow area. It was covered in moss within a couple of months. Granted, the base was set in a mossy area. I didn't place any orchids on it; though I think I might do that when I return. I would think that waiting for the moss to cover it and then putting orchids on it might work better than putting orchids on it without moss. But that's just a guess.
     
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    Clark Gator Member

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    Oh, I thought someone was asking about the wine chiller for chilling bottles of wine. Guess I need to hang with a different crowd.
     
  4. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Anglican Supporting Member

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    Save the trouble. They don't work.
    I tried one actually *within* a ten gallon tank and it never grew any moss. In fact, the water seeped out of it so fast I had standing water in the tank before long. I tried the short and the tall and the water draining out too fast was a problem with all of them.

    On a similar topic, I had no good luck with swamp sticks either. They had to be refilled too often and most roots would not attach to them.

    But I *do* have a hand made terra cotta wine chiller that works muy bien as a nano-viv. You can pretty easily tell when something is hand thrown on a wheel, and the hobby lobby versions clearly are not. Skip it, I say.
     
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    Candace Kept Woman Supporting Member

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    Are the Hobby Lobby ones glazed on the inside or outside? IF so, that would prevent water from being absorbed into the clay.

    Edit: If memory serves me right, I think the new Swamp Sticks are unglazed and work better than the original ones.
     
  6. Chris

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    So based on Jon's post, I did go spend $5 on one. I put it in the tank, filled with RO/DI, and attached some live moss to it. We'll see how it goes. The tank gets plenty of light from the excess of the catt bench metal halide.
     
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    I have also tried a un-glaced winecooler and i did´nt work at all. So I bought a real nonviv and it works very well.
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  8. Chris

    Chris New Member

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    Very nice masdevallia! I really wish they were available here in the states. Along with those Epiweb IIs-tubes. I would much prefer one of them.
     
  9. Chris

    Chris New Member

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    masdevallia, can you tell us some details about what bulbs/fixtures you are using?
     
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    It´s 3 20w halidspots. They are conneted through a brasstape.
    Epitubes should be no problem. You can always make one yourself.
     
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    Chris New Member

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    Thank you for the info.

    Alas, we can't get real epi-web in the US.
     
  12. masdevallia

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    oh, it was nothing.
    Well, I fell sorry for ya´ll... ;)
     
  13. Jon

    Jon Mmmm... bulbophyllum...

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    You may be able to get clay sewer pipes in TX, Chris. They're against code in Denver, so I can't get them there.
     
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    The cylinder in this vivarium is a drainage pipe, of terracotta, and they work well as long they aren´t damaged.
     
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    What's the diameter of the glass enclosure?
     
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    Thanks Kansas. Firstrays doesn't sell "true" epiweb, and I had never seen the dartfrog place. I wonder when they will get the tubes in and what they will cost and include.
     
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    In regards to the FirstRay link, this is what he said on another website about that:

    http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/parts-construction/43451-real-epiweb.html

    Dont know whats true or not, but who knows.

    Either way, I really love the look of the epiweb tubes, and it looks simple enough to make.
     
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    Has anyone used the product from dartfrogdepot.com?
     
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    There are posts of people using it on dendroboard site. To be honest, I think any hard porous fish filter material will do exactly the same job as long as its getting enough water. I dont think this will only work if you use name brand Epi-Web. Generic stuff should work exactly the same and for a cheaper price for those experimenting. Ill be buying a small piece in a week or 2 and trying this out.