/ Register

Welcome to OrchidsForum.com. We are a friendly online community for Orchid Growers all over the world. If you haven't joined yet we invite you to register and join our community. Hope to see you on our forums!

Neobathiea grandidieriana

Discussion in 'Orchid Species' started by mrbreeze, Mar 23, 2011.

Tags:
  1. Mar 23, 2011 #1
    mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Anglican Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,362
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    You may know it as filicornu. :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Mar 24, 2011 #2
    xmpraedicta

    xmpraedicta Prairie angraecoid nut Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,744
    Likes Received:
    588
    Location:
    Saskatoon, SK
    It's wonderful
     
  3. Mar 24, 2011 #3
    gg68

    gg68 Angraecoid addict

    Messages:
    1,750
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    Location:
    France, Alsace
    The shape of the lip is strange, insn't it?? In the same way, petals and sepal are too round for filicornu...don't you think it can be an other Neaobathiea, as N. spatulata for example...??
     
  4. Mar 24, 2011 #4
    Mary Jane

    Mary Jane New Member

    Messages:
    4,342
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Duluth, Georgia USA
    Ooh, I like that.
     
  5. Mar 24, 2011 #5
    gnathaniel

    gnathaniel Lurker Supporting Member

    Messages:
    784
    Likes Received:
    36
    Location:
    Athens GA, USA
    Nice nectary!

    --Nat
     
  6. Mar 24, 2011 #6
    mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Anglican Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,362
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    Giles, I don't know...I've never even thought about it until now. It is the only member of the genus I've had until recently. I'll have to do some checking in the books.
     
  7. Mar 24, 2011 #7
    Home Grown

    Home Grown Hakuna Matata

    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec
    Awesome! I have killed two of these:cry:
     
  8. Mar 24, 2011 #8
    Mäx

    Mäx Member

    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    11
    Very Nice!
    I think Neobathiea grandidieriana is the right name.
    The picture in ''Field Guide to the Orchids of Madagascar'' looks very similar.
     
  9. Mar 24, 2011 #9
    mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Anglican Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,362
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    After checking Jay's site, etc., I think it is correctly ID'd. Might not match exactly in all ways but the other possibilities seem way too different to me.
     
  10. Mar 25, 2011 #10
    gg68

    gg68 Angraecoid addict

    Messages:
    1,750
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    Location:
    France, Alsace
    We have the same book, but we don't see the same thing...:confused:

    The grandidierina's lip is really acute (p303 photo 42.1), and the sepals and petals are spatulate at the tip!!
    On the photo shown by Mr Breeze, the lip is not acute at all and petals and sepals more round at the tip than acute!!

    In my opinion it could be N.spathulata or N. keraudreana (p303 photo 42.2)!!
     
  11. Mar 25, 2011 #11
    Uluwehi

    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,973
    Likes Received:
    123
    Enchantment! :eek: :clap: :D

    There may well be two different species coming in to cultivation via Malala under the name filicornu (now known as grandidierana). Botanica Ltd. brought an exhilarating blooming specimen to POE, where it won a number of awards. Bill of Botanica told me that this specimen is different from most of the others that have come in from Malala. I think Gilles may be on to something here, that what Botanica and Mr. Breeze have may be a different species than grandidierana.

    Here are four photos of the magnificent specimen they brought to the show: 1 2 3 4. Compare these with this.

    After reading the descriptions for Neobathiea grandidierana, keraudrenae, and spatulata I am fairly certain that this is N. keraudrenae which is described as having spatulate sepals and petals with an entire lip that is slightly cordate at its base. In contrast, N. grandidierana's sepals and petals are lanceolate and acute with an ovate-lanceolate entire lip (with a subcordate base). N. spatulata is out of the question because it has a three-lobed lip.

    Mr.B., perhaps you might want to measure your plant and compare it to the descriptions for the two species in Stewart's masterpiece. ;) :poke:
     
  12. Mar 25, 2011 #12
    Karen

    Karen Species nut

    Messages:
    2,559
    Likes Received:
    20
    Location:
    Southern California
    AWESOME!
     
  13. Mar 25, 2011 #13
    Reyna

    Reyna Orchid Obsessed Supporting Member

    Messages:
    984
    Likes Received:
    86
    Location:
    Arkansas, USA
    A Neobathia by any other name is still incredible! Nicely done!