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new greenhouse

Discussion in 'Growing Areas' started by Kitty, Oct 25, 2010.

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  1. Nov 16, 2010 #21
    Kitty

    Kitty AKA\Debby

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    thank you Alexis, me too! I was surprised how many plants were crammed in there, it will so nice to have so much more space and real benches and hanging space in the proper places.
     
  2. Nov 17, 2010 #22
    Pook

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    Green with envy here.
     
  3. Nov 18, 2010 #23
    Kitty

    Kitty AKA\Debby

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    the frame is finished, the roof configuration is really beautiful! The weather is not holding out to well, rain is in the forecast, it's only 50 degrees today, too cool to paint. I've got to work on my bench placement plan, Marni suggested I make paper cut outs to play with so I don't waste any space, good advice. East\west or north\south? My house is the east & south except for the last 10 ft which goes beyond the south wall. Final grnhs measurement is 18x30.
     
  4. Nov 18, 2010 #24
    Kitty

    Kitty AKA\Debby

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    oops

    got it


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  5. Nov 18, 2010 #25
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    Magnificent!!!!! That will be sooo nice to just walk out the back door and be right in it.

    I'm curious though about how the contractor is going to make the water drain from the v-junction between the greenhouse and the house roof?
     
  6. Nov 18, 2010 #26
    Uluwehi

    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    What a beautiful roof! I'm very excited for you.
     
  7. Nov 18, 2010 #27
    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    What an improvement over the old one! The plants are going to love the space. I personally don't think the bench configuration has much to do with the orientation to the sun. It is more a matter of getting the most bench space and the least aisle space as is comfortable and how wide a bench can you use and still reach plants in the middle from one side or the other. I think you already mentioned hanging plants on your north wall which is great since the spikes will be heading south. You don't want hanging things blocking all of the light coming in when the sun is low.
     
  8. Nov 18, 2010 #28
    Kitty

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    Posey, there are gutters along the house roof, the grnhs roof will aline up to them and drain directly into them. To do this we had to put 5 posts in 2 &1\2 ft from the house to support the grnhs roof. The contractor and his contractor buddy are happy to have the work and really work well together, I have total confidence in them..... So how is the horse ranch situation coming along?
     
  9. Nov 18, 2010 #29
    Uluwehi

    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    I agree. At least leave the south wall free of mounts.
     
  10. Dec 2, 2010 #30
    Kitty

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    shade cloth

    :confused: I need the help of a creative mind to figure out how to put aluminet on the roof with out me getting on the roof if possible, or am I going to have to put it on the inside? He wants to be done and out of here by next Fri. at the very latest, seems like there is so much to do yet. Still have to paint, build benches,install fans, bring in 5 yards of gravel and he says there is still some trim and roof detail to complete. the ladder on the outside is 9ft and the roof peaks at 14ft


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  11. Dec 2, 2010 #31
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    You have the shading fabric made with grommets etc. Then attach some cording to the fabric grommets throw the cording over the g.h. and pull up on the other side. Attaching the fabric on the inside defeats the purpose of deflecting the light and heat. Heat will bounce off the fabric inside your g.h. which you don't want.
     
  12. Dec 2, 2010 #32
    T. migratoris

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    How are your neighbors with the new 'house?

    It looks like your panels are somewhat opaque whereas many I've seen - mine included - are clear. There's no way I could go without shadecloth and even now, in winter with the shadecloth off, it's too bright. I wish I could find 20% aluminet for use in the winter. In any case ... I wonder whether your shadecloth needs will be the same as mine and others who have clear polycarbonate panels. Your panels might prove to be similar to painted glass panels. Just a thought.
     
  13. Dec 3, 2010 #33
    Uluwehi

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    That thing is humongous!
     
  14. Dec 3, 2010 #34
    Kitty

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    Candace, thanks for the idea, I'll run it by my guy. T migratoris, it is a little big, but so much better looking than the old one, for the neighbors in the back we built a new fence with framed lattice on top, the old fence was falling down with boards missing, the grnhs is 10 ft. back from the fence. The house on the north side gets the biggest impact, it's a rental that has been vacant since we started the build. That house also has a large red maple tree close to there fence that will hide a good portion of the grnhs much of the year. And you can't see it from the street. Jacob, when are you coming up to see the monster face to face? I think they are building benches today and I'll paint this week-end. At least it will be sealed enough to turn the heater on so I won't have to work in the cold and the paint will cure
     
  15. Dec 3, 2010 #35
    T. migratoris

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    You're fortunate with the neighbors! One of my neighbors looks from above right over mine - and with Aluminet on it's pretty reflective. No issue yet but then they're pretty cool folks that don't get bothered easily.

    Looks great!
     
  16. Dec 3, 2010 #36
    Uluwehi

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    I have always put up shade cloth in the manner Candace described. Kitty, have you measured how much light you have in the structure now that the opaque twinwall is up? This may matter when deciding on how dense of shade cloth you require. Also will you me keeping up one type of shade cloth year-round or will you be switching between two different densities summer vs. winter?

    I would love to come up and see the monster :)
     
  17. Dec 3, 2010 #37
    Kitty

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    Morabeza, I know 4 people who went with the opaque, 2 of them do a little shading of some sort in the summer. Now that it is up I'm very pleased with it, the old fiberglass was so dirty I don't know how any light got through it, today (overcast & cloudy) it seems as bright in the grnhs as it is outside. I've got a couple months to think about shade, I was concerned that I might have to put it on the inside, I feel more confident now that I can figure something out by spring.
     
  18. Dec 11, 2014 #38
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    Hi Kitty. I just finished a 21' X 24' greenhouse and I have a 52" Hunter outdoor ceiling fan. It runs very quietly and distributes air to the center of the greenhouse. This also provides lighting as it came with a light kit. I put LED bulbs in so I wouldn't have to worry about changing them. I also have 2 oscillating fans at opposite corners. The other opposing corners get help from the gas heaters that have fans in them. If I could make a recommendation, I'd go with 2 ceiling fans and at least 2 oscillating fans. This is just for circulation. When your vents and exhaust fans kick in you will have very good air movement throughout the greenhouse. As for warm water, if you plan to use a pressurized water system you may want to have a hot water line out to the greenhouse. If you will be watering from a tank or barrel the submersible aquarium heaters work wonders.

    Below are pics of the ceiling fan and oscillating fan that I use. Hope this helps and enjoy your new greenhouse!!!!

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