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One of my first hybrids

Discussion in 'Orchid Hybrids' started by DPfarr, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. DPfarr

    DPfarr Well-Known Member

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    I'm excited about this. I just got them today. I used one of the 4N Ang magdalenae of old and doubt there is any Eurychone tetraploids. Should be interesting the shift that happens in that.

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    Bushy girl ! Looks like a big plant♡♡
     
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    Wow! Looks like you have a lot of potting to do :) They look very healthy!
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    So these should be a triploid? Was the Ang magdalena a natural 4N or converted?
     
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    ZWUM Bulbophiliac Staff Member

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    Would it make a difference in the offspring if the parent were a natural 4N vs. converted?
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    No, but I hadn't heard of any old time 4N magdalenas. Actually, I haven't seen any 4n magdalenas (that certainly doesn't mean there aren't) and I was interested in that.
     
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    Wow, congratulations! That should be very interesting, I'm curious of the result!
     
  8. gg68

    gg68 Angraecoid addict

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    Wow, congratulations!!!
    I'm so jalous...I guess I will never find such an hybrid in Europe.....
     
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    I think they were converted. It was from Alan Koch's magdalenae. I would hazard a guess they were a joint thing with Hillerman. Hoosiers had some they found to be sterile so I suspect they were chemically mutated.

    Marni, unfortunately we suck at growing magdalenae. I feel like almost all of them (save one that's not in the hottest shape) are dead. Giving you pollen does little good past having exceptional (but sterile) progeny. I'm afraid to self it because of the mortality that imposes.

    Anna, that's a whole bunch of seedlings out of a community flat. Not one ultra prolific plant.
     
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    I made an outcross of 2 Hillerman plants that are getting up to size to come out of flask soon, but I didn't think to treat any when they were protocorms. These are such incredibly slow growers that it is painful and wonder if I'll live long enough to bloom one. They really like to be in the cool to cold range at night.
     
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    It's a sad thing I don't chalk that up to hyperbole. I've had some seedlings for YEARS that in all honesty are still seedlings.
     
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    Here is the first one. I hope they get better as the mature.

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    wooow! that's very, very fast to reach FB size! And that's already quite a nice outcome!
     
  14. Marni

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    How long from sowing (or pollinization) to blooming?
     
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    looks pretty good! Should have 3-4 flowers when more mature?
     
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    I hope there's more than one flower. What's the max that magdalenae has?
     
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    Probably 3-4. But galeandrae can have 10 or more. So I would expect 4-6 flowers when mature.
     
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    This cross was with roth as the female. I think the max roth has is six? If there is four that would be adequate.
     
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    Speaking of galeandrae, did you do anything with yours?
     
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    Oops! I guess i had galeandrae on the brain!. Yes, rothschildiana can have 5-6, so 3-4 on the hybrid. I collected the pollen of galeandrae. I also crossed A. mystacidii onto it. What did you do? Did you find the flowers short lived? mine only lasted about 4-5 days.