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schoenorchis fragrans - tiny tiny vandaceous

Discussion in 'Orchid Species' started by mini-catts, Oct 4, 2009.

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  1. Oct 4, 2009 #1
    mini-catts

    mini-catts Member

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    This is got to be one of the tiniest vandaceous species! The plant is about 1.5" wide and tall. The flower's are the size a pin head!
    I think it would be cool if this could hybridize with another vanda alliance....
    Hmmm....

    Enjoy!
    Pete

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  2. Oct 4, 2009 #2
    This_guy_Bri

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    wow
     
  3. Oct 4, 2009 #3
    Tom_in_PA

    Tom_in_PA I am not an addict

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    wow indeed :D
     
  4. Oct 5, 2009 #4
    Mary Jane

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    lol, man, that is so freakin' cool. That root looks HUGE!!!
     
  5. Oct 5, 2009 #5
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    Very Nice !! , are you sure with the name ??? (it look like to S. pachyacris, no ?)
     
  6. Oct 5, 2009 #6
    Marni

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    I'm less worried about the name than where I can get one.;)
     
  7. Oct 5, 2009 #7
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    I got a S fragrans about 2 months ago. It's not doing much but it is a nice plant with 2 growing points. I sure hope it flowers like this one. Awesome!
     
  8. Oct 5, 2009 #8
    Erik

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  9. Oct 6, 2009 #9
    mini-catts

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    I got this from Santa Barbara Orchid show in March from Michael Ooi in Malaysia. He had a bunch of them!
    Pete
     
  10. Oct 6, 2009 #10
    mini-catts

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    Hi Erik, I looked up S. pachyacris, but it does not seem to be that species.
    However, maybe it is this? http://www.orchidspecies.com/schoenseidenfaddeeni.htm

    Pete
     
  11. Oct 6, 2009 #11
    Tom-DE

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    A cute one, Pete! It is S. seidenfadenii IMO, but 3 or 4 of those species look so much alike that you really don't care much about its true ID any more...
     
  12. Oct 6, 2009 #12
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    Is it fragrant?
     
  13. Oct 6, 2009 #13
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    Fantastic !!!!!:clap:
     
  14. Oct 6, 2009 #14
    mini-catts

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    Well the flowers are so tiny that any fragrance from them is minute!
    Pete
     
  15. Sep 1, 2015 #15
    KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    This is an old post (6 years now). Can anyone confirm the ID on this plant? The flowers are awesome.
     
  16. Sep 1, 2015 #16
    pontupo

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    I had a long adventure trying to parse out what's what with the species in this group. Someone in this forum (I think wpinnix?) sent me an article on the subtle differences. I'll shoot it over to you tomorrow, KellyW.

    I believe this is S. seidenfadenii, the major distinguishing characteristic being the upward curved lip, but now I'm also concerned I'm misremembering so I'll have to double-check. From what I've seen, S. seidenfadenii also has the dark streaks on a light background whereas S. fragrans has a solid color, but I don't think color is considered a critical difference.

    These photos are really lovely and this clone is as well!
     
  17. Sep 1, 2015 #17
    sam1147

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    S. siedenfadenii.
     
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  19. Sep 1, 2015 #19
    KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Thank you.
     
  20. Sep 2, 2015 #20
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    Gunnar Seidenfaden discussed the differences between S. fragrant and S. seidenfadenii in his paper: Orchid Genera in Thailand XIV. Fifty-nine vandoid Genera. Opera Botanica, Vol 95 (1988). p.66-69

    The 2nd photo on the right flower (the middle row) shows two bumps on the lip, and this is one of the key which he uses (so this is S. seidenfadenii).

    4. Epichile of lip with two low rounded calli besides each other, separated by a cleft. Spur in obtuse angle to epichile .... S. seidenfadenii
    4.* Epichile with a single large semi globular callus. Spur in a right angle to epichile, ... S. fragrans

    The anatomical terminology is confusing. Maybe the following figure is easier to illustrate the difference in their lips:
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