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Shade cloth removal time?

Discussion in 'Growing Areas' started by T. migratoris, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. T. migratoris

    T. migratoris Active Member

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    There's a pretty good storm headed into NorCal & my shade cloth's not really fastened down - it's just laying on the roof & drapes down the west side. I either have to scramble to whip up a quick fastening scheme or take it off before it blows into the next county. The cloth is 50% Aluminet.

    Is it time to remove the shade cloth? Who leaves shade cloth on all year? I've got to decide what to do pretty quickly.

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  2. Jon

    Jon Mmmm... bulbophyllum...

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    It's time to remove the shade cloth. I removed mine yesterday. We've had a very warm fall, so I left it on longer than I normally would have.
     
  3. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I have a north facing roof that goes through the winter without any shade cloth since the light doesn't strike it, but all other roofs have some cloth all year. I take off the extra layers this time of year, but I am late this year so it is a bit dark on a cloudy day like today.

    If you take off the shade cloth, is there any shading on it?
     
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    It's been noticeably darker inside lately - I suppose because of the sun's angle changing. Makes me nervous with the humidity as high as it is. My gut tells me I need more light to balance the humidity.

    None.
     
  5. Candace

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    I'm going to take mine off as soon as I can. It's time.
     
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    Thanks for the help eveyone. It's off for the winter.
     
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    I'm in Salinas and I took it off on Monday about two weeks later than I should have.
     
  8. T. migratoris

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    Thanks Jon. The impending storm put me in a position to make a quick decision but at the end of the day I guess I still wasn't really certain about the best way to go, wind notwithstanding. This is my first full year with a greenhouse so I'm still working my way through the ins & outs of what works & what doesn't. I certainly appreciate the input.
     
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    I have aluminet too. As far as holding it down, I use bungie cords attached to the grommets on the cloth and eye bolts in the foundation. Works great and really easy to take it on and off.
     
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    Great idea. Do you secure it on the ends also (the gable ends of the house) or just on the sides?
     
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    Just on the sides.
     
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    Can you show photos on the inside/outside so we can get an idea how bright it is now?
    Besides I love to see others greenhouses!
     
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    I'll work on that.
     
  14. Candace

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    Took mine off today!
     
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    Here are a couple of photos of the inside this afternoon. It was a clear day - sun at a typical late-October angle. Shade cloth is off so we're looking at light intensity through 10mm twinwall polycarb only. My photo skills are awful and so is my camera (bad combination) so I apologize for the quality. I was trying to show the shadowing more than anything.


    PA270048sm.jpg PA270050sm.jpg PA270052sm.jpg PA270053sm.jpg PA270051sm.jpg
     
  16. Marni

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    Don't sell your photographic skills short. And everything looks great. That seems like pretty bright light for a phalaenopsis.
     
  17. Kitty

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    niiice, everything looks great! what is the size of your grnhs.?
     
  18. Candace

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    I keep one layer of shade cloth on year round and remove my second layer. You may need to keep a layer on or shade paint. It does still look very bright in there. It took me a year or two to figure out what worked best for my area and plants. You'll find out if things start burning or it gets too hot, that you need a layer year round.
     
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    9' x 12' w/ 8' high sidewalls - about 11' at the peak

    I think you're probably right Candace. Two layers is probably the way to go. I'll see how things shake out.

    I don't worry too much about the Phals but I'm keeping a close eye on the Aerangis. One thing I've noticed about the Phals - the hybrids seem to do much better in this light than do the species.
     
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    I notice a few non-Angs in there. Probably best to cull those. :poke:

    It looks a bit too bright to me. Like you said, Aerangis might not like it. Nor Aeranthes and some other genera. But...a lot of Angraecums would probably love it. Maybe you should put one layer over half the house? Or put two layers over one third, one layer over one, and the last third leave without. Then you'd have three zones of light for the price of one! :clap: