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Specimens vs. divisions...

Discussion in 'Orchid Culture' started by PhalGal, May 29, 2015.

  1. PhalGal

    PhalGal Rachel

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    I would like some opinions on what I've found to be a debatable topic among orchid people...whether to divide large plants or grow them as specimens. For me, the orchid in question is Oncidium incurvum var alba. Its in spike now with three spikes but im already thinking about what to do after blooming is finished. Personally I like to grow my plants as large as I can given they remain healthy and productive. Obviously, in nature no one is dividing orchids and removing backbulbs and they do just fine so is this just a matter of personal preference or does it have its benefits. What are your thoughts about this topic in general and also specifically to my species in question. Thanks!...:)
     

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    Rvorchids Eric Sauer, Dayton Ohio

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    Easy question.....as you mentioned, no one is dividing plants in the wild. The bigger they are the better they bloom and the healthier they are. They do however reach a point where they do start to decline some and really benefit from a division, but this is typically years into a plant's life. The plant will tell you by not blooming as well as the year before. Typically the only time I divide is when I can't get a pot or basket large enough to pot it in, it is simply too large to handle any longer or if someone wants a division.

    Otherwise, leave it in one big piece and enjoy the fruits of your growing labor!
     
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  3. KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    To me it depends on several factors.
    1) size vs. space. I am starting to divide my space hog specimens because I have run out of room. And the cramped conditions affect plant health throughout the greenhouse.
    2) Appearance. Is it deciduous leaving a mass of naked pseudobulbs? Are the old leaves looking ratty, damaged, ugly? Is it still a beautiful plant that holds your attention?
    3) Sometimes when being repotted or remounted a plant will naturally divide itself by falling apart. Personally i wouldn't put them all back together.
    4) Pests and disease. IMO, a densly packed specimen has poorer air movement over many of the leaves and pseudobulbs as well as giving the grower less visibility within the plant leading to a higher risk of insects and disease problems.
    5) Are you interested in sharing with friends or other growers?

    I'm sure there are many other factors but those immediately come to mind. Also, what some call a specimen is not to others. To me a specimen is something that would attract attention at a show or people would see it and go "whoa".

    Mainly, keep it fun so do what you want .
     
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    Boytjie Out hiking Supporting Member

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    I often divide specimen plants and then sell the divisions on eBay, or through my LOS. It's a good way to recoup costs if the initial plant was expensive. I also like to think of it as a way of making a space-hogging plant "pay rent." :D
    - Stephen
     
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    I divide mine. Nature is a lot bigger than my greenhouse...
     
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    DPfarr Well-Known Member

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    I don't need a specimen Bulb echinolabium but my Bulbo phalaenopsis? YES! I want that to be enormous and struggle to pick it up. I couldn't care less if I had a specimen Cattleya intermedia but a specimen Dendrobium speciosum is a must.

    There are certain plants that lend themselves to create specimen plants. That in my opinion is something that can bloom and look "full", meaning that the plant doesn't have a flower in that quadrant, a couple in the other, none over there, and one in the last. It should also lend itself to staying intact and not fall apart if you repot it or really need repotting. Just because I have a Laelia anceps in an 18" pot doesn't necessarily make it a specimen.
     
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    There are two factors that I can see. The first is preference. Secondly, sometimes the direction(s) that the plant is growing in may be a factor. Also, I've had times when repotting that the plant almost fell apart.
     
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    annabanana1987 Active Member

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    I think that unless you want to divide it to give/trade/sell just leave it alone. Unless to cumbersome for you :)
     
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    PhalGal Rachel

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    Wow...that's a good thread...thanks guys!..I am planning a trade so i will be dividing the oncidium.
     
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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Another thing is most hobby growers don't have the money to buy specimen plants, so it is harder to sell specimen for what it actually is worth. In the future(distant or near), I might have to donate my specimen plants if I can't sell them....
     
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    Dave The Scientist Active Member

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    I personally love specimens of miniatures. Its neat to have a specimen plant you can fit in one hand.