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Sphag culture: walkeriana and nobilior

Discussion in 'Orchid Culture' started by Chris, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. Chris

    Chris New Member

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    So, six months ago, I moved all my nobilior and walkeriana to sphag moss in unglazed clay pots. I was very skeptical at the time, since I guess I am a sucker for classic orchid culture knowledge. You know how it goes, walkeriana and nobilior hate "wet feet" and can't be grown well potted. So, while I moved my collection over, I decided to have a sacrificial plant that I would unpot in six months to inspect the roots, if things looked bad I would consider going back to mounting and figure out how to give them enough water here in Texass. And, I have to admit, I stacked the odds. I took a ratty division off a walkeriana plant I had given a friend in Florida before I moved. It had almost no viable roots. I'll let the pictures do the rest of the talking six month and a new growth later:
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    Chris,
    I have also had good luck with Catts in straight sphag, as long as pots are small.
     
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    Ray Orchid Iconoclast Supporting Member

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    In essence, you have transitioned the plant over to moist-growing roots, much as happens when moving a plant to semi-hydroponics.

    If you can keep the moss fluffy and airy, there is no issue with the roots staying wet.
     
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    Chris, any longer-term followup reports with this experiment? I've got a nobilior clone with almost no viable roots left, and I'm looking for options before I toss it. It's either your sphag method, or stick mounting dry with no moss. -Stephen
     
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    I was actually not pleased at all with the long term results. My nobilior amaliaes HATED it, they barely made any roots at all the past two growing seasons, and amaliaes are root making machines due to the seasonally dry nature of the habitat. Roots from a single small plant can be 30 feet long and cover much a of a tree in the wild. My violaceas refused to root in it after about 6 months, producing most of their roots outside the media. The only thing that liked it seems to be that one walkeriana, which is doing great still. This weekend I put everything back on cork mounts while the getting was good and they still had root in active growth.

    I have a few C. lueddemanniana that absolutely love it. I guess bifoliates are much more finicky.

    These are jut my experiences, your mileage may vary.
     
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    Thanks for the update. Based on your experiences, I think I'll try mounting what's left of my nobilior with a tiny bit of sphag under the bulbs to see if I can't stimulate it to grow something. If not, well then hey, at least I tried! -Stephen :)
     
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    Stephen, if there is some juice left in the bulbs, don't toss it. Mount it, water it several times a week, it will likely survive the winter and make new growth. Don't expect it to do anything until February.
     
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    I actually just mounted it five minutes ago. Will cross the fingers over the winter and see. Would really like this one to make it - I've got the Dom Rafael variety, and pics I've seen of the blooms look incredible. Thanks again for the helpful feedback! -Stephen